David and Robert Perlick-Molinari, otherwise known as French Horn Rebellion, are bonded by more than blood. They work together to create music that blurs the line between classic instruments and synthesized sounds. BRM spoke to the two brothers about their style, their inspiration and their journey.

How did you come up with name “French Horn Rebellion?”

David: Believe it or not, it is extremely central to who we are and what we are as a band.

Robert: The band came from me because I used to be a French horn performance major at Northwestern University in Chicago, and in high school and as I was growing up, I was trying to be bred to go to college, to be a horn player and then go to the symphony somewhere.

David: It sounds like you were in a factory...

Robert: It was a little bit, but it wasn’t really a factory. It was kind of like an apprenticeship type thing. Being a horn player. You work your way up. You have a teacher, and I used to think of my teacher as a kind of mother/father to me. He was very influential. He would tell me what to do day to day, what to do about girls, to do our homework, and all this other kind of stuff. Horn is a part of you. It’s like another limb. It’s like in high school, my horn teacher, he was a really nice guy. He thought that I had a lot of talent and that I could be in orchestra. In high school, I won some competitions and I got a scholarship to Northwestern. I went to school as a horn player and the summer after my freshman year, I went to go intern with David. David was working at a post-production house in New York City. I interned there as a slave or whatever, as a serf.

David: Robert basically took this way of life… what I was doing in New York was kind of modern music production, where we compose, we write, we produce, and engineer everything just ourselves in front of a computer. And we don’t have any need for instrumentalists for the most part.

Robert: I would come in to the studio before everybody else because I had to practice my horn everyday to be ready for the school year. When you’re a horn player, you have to play every single day, otherwise you lose it. I used to get into the studio and practice an hour beforehand and an hour every day after work. I would be there two hours longer than everybody else. And I would be doing all of the intern work. And meanwhile, I never did any horn work on any of the commercials we were doing. Nobody used a horn because it was completely useless. I felt really rejected I guess.

David: And if we needed a horn, we would just get a horn sample, which sounded better anyway [laughs].

So do you play any horn in your music now?

David: Yeah. Actually, we play a lot of horn in our music now. There is going to be a very cool, climactic horn quartet at the end of the album. People who have criticized the music say, “Oh it’s French Horn Rebellion, but there’s no French horn.” The thing is that the horn itself, because of our style of production, a lot of times, in the mix, it doesn’t sound necessarily like the horn. It’s in there, but it’s not always the featured instrument. But on this new album, we are doing a featured section. We are doing a lot of horns on this album.

Robert: It’s the chronicle of the life and times of a French horn player. It’s the horn player in modern society. The album is non-stop. It doesn’t have any breaks in it. You’re in a story, and the main character is a horn player… I like playing horn, I just decided not to do it.

David: You are playing horn in this new form.

So are you rebelling against the traditional way of playing the French horn?

Robert: It’s like me as a French horn player trying to tell other French horn players that we can do other stuff. Like, hey, we don’t have a sit in a room and practice over and over again. You can make your own expression. Let’s bring French horn players together and rebel against the idea that you can’t be a musician as a horn player.

David: The thing that is sweeping away music production and people writing music right now is the ability to create all these things on your own. And when you are any kind of instrumentalist, you are just playing one single line inside of a bigger orchestra or a bigger ensemble. The rebellion deals with taking the musical expression into our own hands fully for the big picture, and creating all the different orchestra parts yourself and playing them yourself. You are able to express yourself in more textures and more styles and instrumentation. You use all the different colors to create a bigger sound than you can with a single horn. That’s also what it’s about.

Are there any instruments that you use that would surprise people?

David: I think we use a lot of eclectic kind of sounds. Like sounds that you might not know what they are because they are cut up. We’ve always tried to use weird things and put them into a production, trying to make something else completely. We try a lot of jungle influences. The synthesizer plays a huge role in the sounds.

Robert: We try to make a lot of noises sound natural. Earthy, natural kind of sounds that come out of the most canned…

David: It’s not canned, it’s just wave-forms manipulating… I think what we are doing here is playing with the perception that people have of synthesizers being a cold instrument. Being in the computer, very sterile. But in fact, the synthesizer might be one of the most expressive instruments just because of all you can do with it. It’s manipulating wave forms in a way that no other instrument can. It’s got so much hidden potential — as much as your imagination can muster basically. We use a lot of synthesizer to create sounds that you would find in the environment. Making sounds from the environment sound synthetic, and take synthetic sounds and make them sound like they came from the environment.

Robert: A lot of the stuff on this album is kind of like that. Dualism. A play on things. Counterpoint.

What kind of music did you listen to growing up?

David: I think collectively, our parents had Beatles and Beach Boys albums that we liked to listen to a lot. I think that and Motown. The Temptations. Just kind of what our parents bought for us. We’ve had a funny Christmas with our family, and they had some old videotapes of us as kids, and we saw us receive The Temptations cassette tape. And we were like “Oh! That’s why we like The Temptations. They gave it to us.”

Robert: And my mom was really into classical music and she really wanted us to be cultured men — our dad was a football player. She got us all this stuff to keep us cultured. Because we were also into sports and everything growing up, and we were kind of taller guys so we were sought after, when it came to bigger guys and playing football. David was a good basketball player in middle school.

David: Aw, thanks Robert! Our mom kind of won because that’s what kept our interest. I think it’s because of the music and all the artistic stuff spoke to us on levels that we didn’t even imagine would affect us. Growing up, you never knew that you could be a single way emotionally because of music that you listen to or music that you watch. But growing up, you see these things all the time, and you don’t know why you like it when you are a kid. I think that’s what’s really fun about revisiting old music. For instance, The Beatles. Well, why did I like The Beatles? I don’t know, as a kid. But looking back, there are these things that we learned about over time in our musical experience, that we recognize and like. I think our parents had a big role in what we listened to. Oh yeah, we had this keyboard that our parents bought us one Christmas, and there were a string of original demos on the keyboard. And there is this one demo that was the most influential. It’s the first demo on one of the Casio keyboards…we are trying to find it right now…[plays demo]

David: Yeah, I don’t think we knew what jazz was at that point, but that’s pretty jazzy. The rhythms and the harmony and the melody and how it all came together in that particular demo, we blend that kind of stuff with traditional songwriting that we love from Beach Boys and Beatles stuff.

How did it go, trying to do everything yourself without a label?

Both: We were terrible at it.

David: We thought we could do it, we were like, “Oh, we are independent people. We can do it.” It’s really difficult. You’re blending two very different things in you, and you have to blend them all the time. The creative work and also the business work, and not just about the emotional stress it puts on you, but also the physical amount of time it takes to do both of those things. It’s very, very difficult.

Robert: We are not really on a label right now, but we do have people who act for us on a label. We are working with these guys who are in London. They have Once Upon a Time. They are independent people and they have been helping us. They’ve been acting as our managers.

David: To make it clear, if anyone is interested, we are looking for a label [laughs]… You need help, when it comes to the business side of things, but we want to work collaboratively to work together to get the music out there. That’s really the trick. We can create all this music in our rooms and have a lot of fun with it, but there would be no longevity to that. Not only that, but you want to share it. Who creates your artwork?

Robert: That would be me actually, and my Photoshop skills hard at work. We like to do the art ourselves. It makes the creative process a lot quicker.

Is your space theme intentional in the artwork?

David: Skies run into the concept of why we make the music. It has a lot to do with looking at the universe in a different way. The space thing… it’s the kind of feeling when you look up at the stars, and you’re like, we’re just this part of a much bigger whole. And what is this bigger whole and what does it mean? When you are a kid, you have all these dreams about we’re colonizing space and we’re supposed to be on Mars. There’s all these really optimistic thoughts about exploring the cosmos. But the reality is that you’re very far away. It’s obviously a huge universe so I guess it’s very refreshing. It’s a refreshing thought to think of yourself in this huge thing. Your problems and your little things you do day to day are very small in the grand scheme of things. I think it’s a hopefully optimistic vibe. Space images. It all fits right into that.

How do you see your music evolving?

David: It’s evolving every day. Every day, it’s turning into something new. Right now, we’re in the thick of doing this new album, and every time we come back to a production work, it’s changing slightly. So everyday is an evolution. And it evolves as we evolve. We see the environment around us and as we interpret our place in the world, that idea changes and so does the music. All we are doing in the music is expressing what we feel. We try to keep it very expressive of what’s relevant to us. And if we like it, the hope is that other people will find that they like it. That’s all we can do. I think a lot of people make music for a lot of different reasons, but the question of our evolving, if we can just stay on this path of expressing what’s meaningful, to us, what’s true, our ability to evolve is to do that well.

Do you like collaborating?

Robert: We go on a lot of tours. We started out just touring a lot and we met so many cool people. So naturally, when you meet someone you like, you want to work with them musically. Database, Mighty Five, John Bourke is a very influential guy. We were really lucky, when we first started out. From just a few contacts, we got to meet everyone who was doing electronic. It’s a lot of fun. The Database “Beach and Friends” was really fun because it puts a lot less pressure on yourself to create the be-all, end-all, greatest thing ever. So let’s see what they think over there. Everybody’s collective energy together makes something really great. I think that’s the point of Beaches and Friends, the EP we are creating. It’s basically five tracks, four versions of the same song. There is not an original version of the song. The essence of Beaches and Friends is what the main song is, but no one knows the original. It’s a bunch of variations on themes that don’t exist. Well, it does exist but you only get the variations. But the original “Beaches and Friends” is just a vocal line and chorus and then…

David: Well the original of “Beaches and Friends” exists in Yuri’s imagination. When he first came up with the idea for this track, I don’t think anyone intended it to be as elaborate as it became. Everybody had a different take on it. Working together peers into something that you wouldn’t see right away. Sometimes as an artist, you can get pretty self-involved. It’s natural in your work, but when you have another perspective coming in, it’s really healthy. So we are going to do as many collaborations as we can in the future. It’s fun. It’s fun to be healthy.

Words by Renee Orenstein

French Horn Rebellion’s Up All Night EP is available now, and Beaches and Friends will be released February 8th, 2010. They are currently on tour. Dates below:

Feb 4, 2010 8:00P - Cake Shop w/ Savoir Adore and Magic Magic - New York, NY

Feb 6, 2010 8:00P - Music Hall of Williamsburg supporting Hot Chip - Brooklyn, NY

Feb 14, 2010 8:00P - Valentine’s Day Party (DJ Set) w/ Neon Indian (DJ Set) @ Glasslands - Brooklyn, NY

Feb 26, 2010 8:00P - The Flying Duck, Ladies Night @ Pin Ups - Glasgow

Feb 27, 2010 8:00P - Proud Galleries, BE @ Proud - London

Mar 2, 2010 8:00P - Barfly - London

Mar 3, 2010 8:00P - Buffalo Bar - Cardiff

Mar 5, 2010 8:00P - Social Club - Paris

Mar 6, 2010 8:00P - Plug - Sheffield

Mar 17-21 - SXSW - Austin, Texas

Apr 22, 2010 8:00P - Masquerade w/ Little Boots - Atlanta, GA

Apr 23, 2010 8:00P - 9:30 Club w/ Little Boots - Washington DC

Apr 24, 2010 8:00P - Voyeur w/ Little Boots - Philadelphia, PA

Apr 28, 2010 8:00P - Middle East w/ Little Boots - Boston, MA

Apr 29, 2010 8:00P - Club Soda w/ Little Boots - Montreal, Quebec

Apr 30 2010 8:00P Phoenix Theatre w/ Little Boots Toronto, Ontario

May 1 2010 8:00P Metro w/ Little Boots Chicago, Illinois

 

As a child, Emanuel Ayvas emulated the mighty Superman — dressing up, playing the daring part — but his adoration didn't stop there. He was often caught playing the hero's theme song as he fiddled and tinkered with his family's piano. In those moments, how ever frivolous and spontaneous they might have been, the composer in him was in full gear.

Over the years, under the guidance and support of his musical family (his mother was in an orchestra, his father and grandfather in a Greek wedding band — parties were described as "jam sessions") he's added a litany of other instruments to his resume, as well as a number of scoring projects.

Truth be told, Ayvas, an insightful and serious, yet remarkably animated character, is at home, in his purest and most organic element when he's an orchestrator, a frontman. So it's no surprise that he has his own band: Emanuel & the Fear.

Typical band, it is not. That is, unless you consider an 11-piece, multi-instrumental collective run-of-the-mill. The Brooklyn-based group borrows from classical music as much as it does from contemporary orchestra outfits like Sufjan Stevens and Arcade Fire. Emanuel & the Fear's played and sold out countless New York City venues and made fans of many local and national music critics, especially after releasing the self-titled EP earlier this year. With all lyrics and music tailored by Ayvas, the effort is his dream come to fruition; the EP's rave reviews are just icing on top of the cake. For him and the band, the only way to go from that release was up...

Which brings Emanuel & the Fear looking ahead to 2010, wide-eyed and excited for what the new year will bring. What's in the works? A brand new 13-song LP titled Listen, scheduled to drop on Paper Garden Records in mid-March. Riding high on the EP's success, the full-length is shaping up to be a widely anticipated release. On a chilly Monday morning, Ayvas took the time to sit and talk with BRM about Listen....

BRM: What can we expect on the new album?

Emanuel Ayvas: There's a pretty big difference. There's a lot more songs obviously [laughs]. I think, it's sort of more, completed and developed, and further along as far as my thought patterns go. It's more so what I wanted it to be as compared to the EP. The thing is, we started recording the LP and the EP as one thing. We actually did seven to nine songs and pulled three of them for the EP. But the remaining five or six songs, we took and revamped.. I re-recorded a lot of the horns and re-sang all of tracks, went over the production, so half of the album was done at the same time as the EP, and the other half was written after.

Do you think, when you listen to it, it sounds like that? Can you tell what was written earlier and later?

I've been listening to it so much that I can tell, like to me it's very obvious. Like I can tell, "Oh I wrote those later, I'm much better at composing, like the arrangements seem more balanced." But then there are a lot of older ones that I was really happy with. I think overall it's a little bit more polished sounding, and we had a lot better mixing. The way we went about mixing was more focused, more balaned and more cohesive. And I think that one of the biggest criticisms we got on the EP was that it was a little kind of all over the place, which i sort of like to be intentionally — not that I want to be scatterbrained — but I want to listen to an album and not have all the songs sound the same, but like for everything to be in a different genre, so its kind of like "What the hell is this?"

I think it's great you were able to have such variety on an EP, being that it's so short...

The thing is the LP kind of does that too, but there's enough space that you don't notice it, it's not as abrupt. I feel like I go from one to the next pretty well. I love the way it goes and I'm very happy with the order of it. It's not a concept album or anything, but it definitely has a motion from start to finish.

You mentioned that it's not a concept album... but are there any recurring themes?

I think one of the bigger themes is the idea of fear. And the bigger thing about the album is the idea of talking about what it's like to be alive as a person, and sort of bringing up the good and bad things, and instead of harping on them, it's more of like, just talking about it bluntly: "It's like this, and like this, and like this," and to kind of leave it open. I have a song on there and it's about the Rapture, and it's about something that I don't really agree with. See, in the Bible it talks about the end of times, and there will be a Rapture where all the rightoues people will just disappear and then everyone else will be left here. There's a group of people who can't wait for that to happen.. I've even heard about some strange list that people check off like, "Oh, I did that and that!" while waiting for the end to come.

How did you even come across that?

I'm from a very religious family. I knew all about the Rapture, I was made terrified of the Rapture! But going back to the song, I wrote it about that and I feel like I put my idea in, but don't go as far as imposing it on anyone. The last line is all about: "Go ahead, go ahead and pack your things and light your candles..I'll be out here watching with everyone else. You can do what you want to do. I don't get it, but whatever." I think that's the bigger theme...it's sort of narrative and sort of abstract. I also think I had a big breakup when I was writing these songs. There's a lot of songs about love and girls, not that it's a bad thing to write about, but I'm kind of tired of it. There's a good 6 songs about those things [laughs]. 13 songs, 19 tracks. intro , bonus track. and a few betwee nthings... like little samples.

Listen has 13 songs, but 19 tracks, including an intro, bonus track and other little goodies in between songs. Why did you decide to go that route?

I definitely liked that kind of dramatic, theatrical thing I guess. I'm a sucker for those albums that slowly ease you in. The album starts off...well, one of the bookended themes is rain, thunder, you know something that happens at the beginning. And then it eases you in with this weird noise. I really like noise/avante-garde-influenced music. The whole thing feels complete with the in-between tracks. I mean, like I said it's not really a concept album, but it kind of is, I guess. There isn't a narrative, but thematically, I'd say it's conceptual because all the themes tie together and push into the next one. I'm really happy with what I said lyrically. it was definitely what I wanted to get out.

You even have a bonus track! Can you describe it a little?

It's very strange. Our album is really long... we are nearly four minutes away from being completely full. The bonus track is connected with noise. I'm really happy with the way that it transitions. I don't even want to say anything about it because I think it's very cool. It's like a spoken word, noise piece, and I say a couple of things on it. Most of it is an amazing friend of mine, he's a poet from Philadelphia.

What is it like practicing with the whole band?

I shouldn't admit this [laughs], but we have never really practiced that much. Before our first show, we practiced one time. Before that, I just sort of met the people and handed them the scores. We read through them once, it sounded okay, and then we went in and had a great show. But having scores.. it allows us to not have to practice so much, which is good because they are all professional mnusicians and I don't want to waste their time. We try to get at least one practice in before a block of shows [laughs].

Be sure to check out their MySpace (including a live version of a new song "Dear Friend")!

Also, below is their music video for "The Rain Become the Clouds" off their EP:

 

 

 

-words by M.Geslani

 

FB-17_editFirst things first, Foreign Born are actually American born and raised. “We used to live in the Mission District of San Francisco and we had a show coming up… booked it before we had a name,” singer, Matt Popieluch explains. “There was a parade in the Mission District and it said “Foreign Born” on the banner.”

Popieluch wanted to have a name that was almost bad, a name that was right on the fence. “Some of the best names of albums and bands, you’re not quite sure about,” he explains. “I like that uncertainty.” Their vague name also says very little about the music that this foursome, Popieluch, guitarist Lewis Pesacov, drummer Garret Ray and bassist Ariel Rechtshaid play.

Where their last album, On The Wing Now, was an anthemic folk album, their newest one, Person to Person, tries to capture their live show. “The first record felt stiff,” says Pesacov. “It’s still fun to listen to, but not as fun to perform live,” Rechtshaid adds. The band managed to make their newest album a very dense record with a little studio magic. “There are not a lot of layers, just a lot of things happening at the same time,” Rechtstaid explains. “It really wasn’t that much going on just drums, bass, guitar, vocal either percussion or horns or keyboards. It just came out quick and chaotic.” Often the guys recorded multiple parts, like having all three guys play acoustic guitars, around one mic. (“Seemed like a funny idea… a band of acoustic guitars,” Pesacov says.) These elements helped make this record a lot groovier.“I wanted to make a reggae record that didn’t sound reggae,” Pesacov admits, “just focusing on grooves, making it more body music than head music. The first record was a little more head music.”

While Foreign Born is the focus, it’s not really a job: “With the lack of money we’re making it would be a little depressing to call it a job,” Popieluch jokes. The guys balanced their time between Foreign Born and their various other projects, which only further fueled the changes on Person to Person. Popieluch, who’s a member of his girlfriend’s band, Glasser, is a groundskeeper in Echo Park and works with Tree People, an environmental nonprofit based in L.A. Rechstaid is a producer who worked on Cass McComb’s newest album, while Pesacov has been riding high with Fool’s Gold. Pesacov wrote the songs for Foreign Born at the same time he was working on the Fool’s Gold album. “There’s a Fool’s Gold song that is actually the ending of a Foreign Born song,” Pesacov explains. “The music all comes from the same spring.”

While some people will reference the Afropop connection between both of Pesacov bands, the guys think that people are focusing too much on “Early Warnings” high life guitars. “Rhythmically speaking there’s a lot of [influences] happening there,” says Popieluch. “But it’s not just from Africa.” Person to Person takes a lot from the music of New Orleans, an influence that no one seems to bring up, along with aspects from music of Asia, Cuba and Brazil. “There’s a connection between New Orleans, Africa and Brazil,” Pesacov explains. “The Triangle Slave Trade putting all the cultures together which is very interesting… a very weird, cultural melting pot.” Rechstaid admits there’s even some Krautrock in there.

Location also played a role in the band’s new and improved sound. The L.A. band has been described as bright and summery, which is true, but just like the City of Angels there’s a dark side underneath all the glitz and pop hooks. Popieluch compared the band to a David Hockney painting: “The bright colors, the California landscapes like [Hockney’s] pool paintings,” he says. “It’s really only on the surface very picturesque…if you look at it for longer you realize what is behind it.”

For their video for “Winter Games” they even decided to feature the infamous Crip Walker dance. “’Ain’t Nothing But a G Thang’ was like the biggest song when I was in junior high,” says Pesacov. “That’s a big part of our lives. We finally had a song that had a groove that you could dance to, that was the first thing that came to mind.”

Along with the obvious musical changes, this album is a new beginning for the band. Their official debut, came out on a record label that was the furthest thing from representing who they are as a band and what they’re about. “Despite the guy who owned the label loving our band, it was completely wrong. I don’t really want to work further with people who don’t represent us well,” Reichstad says. They also released an EP on a record label that was basically a party planning company and folded almost immediately after they released their EP. “Now they’re making porn, we jumped ship just in time,” says Reichstaid. Their new label, Secretly Canadian is a label they respect and doesn’t pressure them to put out hit singles. Instead they, like the band, want to put out albums that help connect them with listeners.

With an album called Person to Person, it’s no surprise that these guys want to stay connected with their fans. From their blog to Twitter to releasing videos of themselves on the road, there is a way to find out what the band is up to. Though they’ve been a little slow recently, they also read all the emails people send to their band account. “We got an email from this guy and it was really short,” Popieluch remembers. “All it said was, ‘You’re last album sucked. This one does too. Go back to your first EP.’”

As the guys gear up for their second round of touring, they hope things will go a little smoother than their last tour which involved two robberies, inclement weather and harsh smoke machine laws along the East Coast. Not that it was all bad; they did manage to have a little fun with a drunken man in Seattle and a lot more fun than they expected in Oklahoma. “We played in Oklahoma and it was one of the most boring nights ever, there was like 20 people at the show. It happened to be next to a hookah bar… there was an Egyptian man, and he happened to have drums,” Pesacov explains. “We played drums with him for two hours. We have that on tape somewhere, this drum circle with an Egyptian man while The Veils were playing next door.” There were also fireworks at some point. “Tequila and fireworks,” Popieluch adds. Turns out Oklahoma isn’t that boring.

Words by Shannon Carlin

www.myspace.com/foreignborn

 

Foreign Born 2010 Tour Dates:

02/26 - Portland, OR @ Mississippi Studios *

02/28 - Seattle, WA @ Chop Suey *

03/03 - Minneapolis, MN @ 7th St. Entry *

03/04 - Madison, WI @ The Frequency *

03/05 - Chicago, IL @ Empty Bottle *

03/06 - Bloomington, IN @ Video Saloon *

03/08 - Cleveland, OH @ Beachland Tavern *

03/09 - Toronto, ON @ El Mocambo *

03/11 - New York, NY @ Mercury Lounge *

03/12 - Brooklyn, NY @ Knitting Factory *

03/13 - Philadelphia, PA @ Marathon Lounge *

03/14 - Washington, DC @ DC9 *

03/26 - Echo Park, CA @ Echo

*= w/ Free Energy

DJ_SpookyPaul Miller, known to his public as, DJ Spooky is a Washington DC-born experimental hip-hop musician, visual artist, film producer, author and postmodern intellectual. Miller eloquently told us about the root and depth of his inspirations, the message he is sending his audience, and the intricate thought process behind his creations. Miller’s thoughts on globalization and America’s role in the world speak directly through his multimedia. His works of art are custom made to connect with and speak to, a multinational audience. At the release party of his new album, The Secret Song, we talked about his latest projects including films, Rebirth of a Nation and Terra Nova: Sinfonia Antarctica (The Symphony of Ice).

BRM: What is the first song you remember dancing to?

DJ Spooky: When I was growing up in the late ’80s there was a rivalry between Prince and this band called The Time with Morris Day…and there was a song called “What Time Is It” that he had. And yeah, I guess dancing to Prince, Purple Rain.

How has your perception of what makes people dance changed over the years?

I’d say people move to anything familiar. That’s why mashups are so important…people really get into the issue of memory and familiarity. What was weird when Michael Jackson died, is that everybody for the next couple of weeks played every single Michael Jackson song you could possibly imagine. I guess, they miss you when you’re gone.

What is your ultimate goal with your music?

I’d say my ultimate goal is to get people to dance as a kind of thought process…like thinking is not separate from moving. But somehow, a lot of dance cultures kind of form as anti-intellectual and I always have to deal with that. But, I grew up in a household that was about expression and about inquiry…about thinking. My dad was Dean of Howard University Law School in the ’60s and the ’70s and my mother was a black feminist, dealing with ’60s transition in Washington D.C. and I had a very multicultural scene. I had a whole world of people from the embassies that were near my house, me and my friends were from totally different cultures.

So, God, you know, who would have guessed, thinking or getting people to move is always such a puzzle because people respond to song, pop song, certain kind of voice, certain kind of rhythms. And I deal with globalization in my music, that’s what the new albums about. And so the new album is in different languages. So, each one, like there’s a song in Chinese and a song in Farsi and uh songs in Russian and so on…So each one takes a tremendous amount of research to figure out what makes people in that culture move.

What is the essential message of the album that you’re sending out worldwide?

I would say the album is saying that hip-hop is now… globalization, turned the American idea of R&B, jazz, dub, rock…into like, an architecture that people around the world, use in their own way, because of that, it’s freed up expression in all different ways. You have hip-hop coming out of Russia, you have Chinese breakdancing, you have Korean rock. You know I love the fact that globalization has made all these cultures…relate to America even while we’ve had the last eight years of politics with Bush, which is…probably the lowest aspect of American history. So for me, race and class and culture are all intertwined and music is a mirror for those issues. So with the album, I did stuff like remixing, and updating Led Zeppelin, for example. Or splicing and dicing turntable stuff with music from Iran. Why? Because that’s what is on my mind…dealing with the economic collapse and the credit markets, or looking at the way people are fostering all sorts of bizarre political issues like Obama vs. all these right wing political lunatics.

My film Rebirth of a Nation came out a little while ago, and I got the rights to D.W. Griffith’s film Birth of a Nation from 1912. Birth of a Nation was sort of the DNA of American cinema, so I remixed that film a little bit before this album came out. Its been getting a lot of hype on the scene. So, you know, the thing that I think will break the American mood of race, politics, around black and white, is global.

Looking at complexity and saying that, I’d say, we’re all connected in radically different ways and Obama embodies that. But the mix is the same thing—they’re mirrors of one another. It’s very interesting to see how we can mix race in a person whose father is from Kenya and mother is white and…the right-wing types, they just can’t process that…their whole mental kind of architecture is collapsing and so that’s why they’re becoming more and more irrational. So, my mixes are kind of like that, but with sound.

Saying that, why do we limit the American notion of identity and what makes up the idea of American music, when really, everyone is mixing, everything is mixed. And that’s…the beauty of hip-hop and sampling. It’s about mixed culture, sampling this, this, this.

How do you choose what you’re going to sample?

Every project is different, but this album was all about, kind of, deprogramming myself about Iran, North Korea, China, Russia, looking at all theses cultures that America’s had as antagonists…And also, at the same thinking about African polyrhythm, about turntablism and sampling.

What do you think about when you’re sampling?

After I finished this album, I went down to Antarctica and I shot a film about the sound of ice. So…it’s a symphony of ice.

How did you record The Symphony of Ice?

I had a digital media studio down there, and basically the whole studio, we had these multi-firewire hard drives…editing and software were given to me by SONY so I got the whole thing in high definition Blu-ray. And each of these were projects, I mean the album is one project. The Antarctica thing, I’ve been thinking a lot about…it was something I just wanted to get out of my system. So, I went down there for four weeks…whenever I’m thinking about a project, what I sample is like my notes, my Cliffs Notes, about the issues that go into the project. So, with Rebirth of a Nation I did a lot of studies of blues and jazz, the turn of the century… and race, politics and the idea of black face, which the film Birth of a Nation from 1912 is primarily white people in black face… it’s a film of what used to define what is American African in the last century.

In the Village Voice, you said, “The whole issue of Birth of a Nation was the fear of exactly what has happened—that an African American was elected to highest office.” Can you expand on that?

Well, I think paranoia and the idea of, let’s put it this way, white supremacy is the operating system of America for the last couple of centuries. Let’s be honest, not only was it fear of colonialism through the English if you think about white Americans, you know, the Pilgrims and the Protestant work ethic. Slavery was the kind of economic equivalent of the work ethic, you know having people work—a lot of preachers would always say, “If you work hard in this life then you get to go to heaven.” Birth of a Nation is based on the plantation system; everything in the film is about nostalgia for when everyone knew their place. And whites and blacks and anybody who was outside of the plantation owner’s system needed to be defined as enemies of the system.

So the biggest films of the beginning of the last century were like Uncle Tom’s Cabin, Birth of a Nation, and Gone With the Wind. And then later on, with the development of speech in film, like sound in film, we had Al Jolson’s The Jazz Singer (1927), which was one of the biggest films of its time. The jazz singer was a white guy [who] wanted to be black and play jazz, so he painted himself a black face. So the arc of, again, like thirty or forty years of the beginning of the last century, we have reconstruction. We have World War II, World War I, to make a long, long, long story short, as a writer, artist and musician, what fascinated me with film and with sampling is the collapse of categories.

You have the records of different ethnic groups, classes and styles of music over here, here, here. Sampling blurs and blows all categories to smithereens. It takes the whole record collection, throws it in the air, and mixes anything with anything. And it sounds cool, and that’s why I think hip-hop really has been able to reach people around the world, because of that eclecticism and dynamic—sort of viral—like, takeover of people’s idea of the future. And yeah, I think that’s what my album is about.

You have collaborated with a lot of interesting people in the past. Who would you like to collaborate in the future? Who are your heroes?

I’d say probably, a lot of my heroes, regretfully, are dead. You know, I’m fascinated with Mahatma Gandhi for example, or Martin Luther King, or Miles Davis, or Jimmy Hendrix. But let’s update it and say that you can’t have all these dead heroes. You have to have living heroes. The people whose work I really like are…people from the turntable scene, like DJ Krush, he’s an old friend—we never formally collaborated together. I’m a big fan of Radiohead for example; I’m also a big fan of TV on the Radio…I’d love to do a collaboration with those guys…Actually, I did a collaboration with Kevin Shields from My Bloody Valentine, one of my favorite rock bands—you know who I would love to do a collaboration with, is Bad Brains.

What kind of advice would you give to someone just starting out, with the goal of becoming a successful DJ?

I’d say, be true to many voices and not to play one style. Because, I think, what ends up happening, is people will lock into just one style and they lose themselves and their ability to keep up with developments in music. Music is changing rapidly and this whole culture is about a kind of dynamic, like collaborative filtering. Pulling together all these things and filtering and cycling through them and updating continuously, is what makes music interesting, you know. So, that’s what I think I would advise anybody starting out now—blogs, forget normal newspapers, go read other peoples ideas and be open, constantly absorb.

How is your work as a writer, artist, and musician, interconnected?

I’m all about the idea of—literature is music. Music is art and art is literature. There is no separation, everything is combined, and kind of, like, flexible in a way that I think makes life interesting.

Which album are you most proud of and why?

I love ’em all. I mean, each one is different; it’s like saying, which toe do you like best? Or which finger? I don’t know…they’re all parts of my body and my ideas and my mind.

How have your albums changed over time?

They have voices. I used to do a lot more instrumental hip-hop, but then the whole lounge hip-hop thing took over, and a lot of people just like, chilled out, lounge, like, anonymous music and that starting driving me crazy. I was like, “Fuck man, how do we figure this out?” Because I don’t just want to make music for cafes, everyone’s just relaxing and going numb.

How did you come up with the name of the album, The Secret Song?

Well, I was going through all of the selection stuff and I was looking for a title and initially it was going to be called, The Invisible Hand…I changed my mind about that because I was thinking a little too much about economics. And I was like, “What connects everything?” I was like, it’s got to be something obvious and subtle…and I was thinking, thinking, thinking, and I was like, there’s a song that connects all of the songs. And that’s what this album is about.

Words by Ana Gak

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antiIn 2009, after a six year break, Anti-Pop Consortium returned to the studio to record the follow-up to Arrhythmia, their delightfully unpredictable second LP. Fluorescent Black, their new album, reunites the boundary pushing rhymes of emcees Beans, M.Sayyid, and High Priest with the unorthodox mixes and arrangements of producer Earl Blaize. The quartet, who are currently on tour, recently met up with BRM to discuss their studio reunion, the new album and what’s been spinning on their players.

BRM: Your album, Fluorescent Black, has been out for over a month now. Do you feel like you’re back in your element?

Beans: Yeah, we’re back to being a group. We’ve been doing things as a unit for a bit so we define things as a unit.

Was that difficult? Getting into the groove of things?

It wasn’t difficult because we purposely waited to the point where it would be the most organic. Until it was that time for us so it wasn’t laborious.

So basically when you felt the time was right, you were going to make this record. How would you say this record differs from your previous efforts? Or does it differ at all?

This album is an attempt at reaching our older fans while introducing our music to newer fans. It’s also an indicator of where we’re going to be going next.

Did you make it a point to do that or did was it just a result of natural progression?

I think it was a natural progression. We had somewhat of a template of what we wanted to do, things we were trying to achieve, but this is just how things turned out with this record.

How do you guys work in the studio?

As far as the creation of the songs themselves, we each come to the table; we all bring production to the table. We all contributed to the production of this album but we each contributed individual songs as well. We listen and then we add, arrangement wise. And then at the final stage, I mix it, pull it all together and make it one cohesive project.

Was it refreshing to be back in a group setting after working on individual projects for a few years?

I like having the ability to do both in terms of individual expressions and the collective experience working with Anti-Pop.I like the balance of working on both craft forms.

What do you find the most different from working as an individual artist and working as a group?

The big obvious difference is in the decision making process between one person and four. Sometimes it’s refreshing just to be able to have something that you connect with from start to finish yourself but at the end of the day, we are stronger as a unit because we all can stand individually. That equation works because it takes our music to another level - the original level is multiplied by four.

You guys have very interesting touring counterparts. You’ve toured with Radiohead and Bright Eyes. Are you looking to tour with anyone in particular this time around?

Well, right now we’re doing a lot of headline gigs but we had the opportunity to tour with those acts because we simply picked up the phone and asked. We are open to the idea of playing with anyone because we have the ability to do that. Whether it’s Bright Eyes, Radiohead or whatever, we do what we do. It all depends on our abilities.

So here at BRM, we like recommendations. What are you listening to right now?

We’ve been listening to a lot of this Psych Funk compilation that we all really love. And we’ve also been listening to the Purple Brain mix. And then we’ve been listening to Flying Lotus and the new Raekwon album.

Any last words?

Buy Fluorescent Black!

 

Words by Nadia Collado

Photo by: Sarah A. Friedman.com

http://www.myspace.com/antipopny

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